After supporting Valérie Pécresse in the first round, Jean-Luc Moudenc, a member of Les Républicains, will line up behind the outgoing President in the second round. The Mayor of Toulouse regrets that his political family does not call for a clearer vote for Emmanuel Macron in the second round.
You have announced that you will vote for Emmanuel Macron in the second round of the presidential election in order to block Marine Le Pen. Do you regret that your party’s tenors are not doing the same?
Jean-Luc Moudenc: ObviouslyI would have preferred if everyone was on the same line. I believe that in life you have to be aware that there are essential decisions, the choice of the second round will be essential. I think Emmanuel Macron is the closest to us and when I look at Marine Le Pen’s economic program, I am very concerned. So there is a very great danger. You have to tell the French that.
No word from Lotois Aurélien Pradié, spokesman for Valérie Pécresse, do you regret that?
Everyone takes responsibility.
Her boss, Christian Jacob, was cautious. He says, like Jean-Luc Mélenchon, that one should not vote for Marine Le Pen without precise voting instructions?
Yes, I regret that we lean a little on Jean-Luc Mélenchon. It’s a paradox. As for me, I’d rather make it clear that I’m not a Melenchonist, so I’m voting for Macron.
They say that to be re-elected, Emmanuel Macron must reach “a very large gathering of French people of an entirely new and apolitical nature.” What does that mean ?
That means that we have to have a dialogue with him, with the democratic forces, and that we have to take a number of measures here and there in the other programmes. What I believe is that if the President of the Republic just stays on his first round base or just on the President’s majority, he won’t pass the ramp for the second round. I think he’s aware of that too, he said on the night of the first lap that he was ready for a rally. So it’s obviously up to him to give the content to appeal to the French who didn’t vote for him and probably won’t.
For example, do you discuss with the Yellow Vests in particular?
You know, when you’re a candidate in an election, you have to listen to everyone, including those who disagree with you. This is a code of conduct that, for my part, I’ve always followed. We must accept dialogue with those who disagree. I think that if this openness is there, if there is an open attitude, then anything is possible.
What political relations do you have with Emmanuel Macron? Have you had him on the phone since Sunday?
No, and I think he has other things to do than talk to me. It’s better that he speaks to the French, that he goes on the ground, than relaying calls to elected officials.
Your candidate Valérie Pécresse made less than 5% in the first round on Sunday. What makes you stay with LR and not go to walkers?
You know, the Republicans have been with me the whole time, even at times that haven’t been easy in my political career. Even though I was supported by En Marche in the municipal elections, I am loyal and stand by my friends. Today is the election cycle, there are presidential elections, in a few weeks there will be general elections, I will be by my friends’ side until the end of this cycle.
When does this cycle end?
We will then see where we stand in the parliamentary elections.
What do you imagine if your party gets no or very few seats in the National Assembly?
We will see. I’m not Madame Soleil, I won’t make predictions. The electorate is very volatile. I don’t know what the French will do in the general elections. It is not my intention to join the Walkers after the general election.
Toulouse voted almost 37% for Jean-Luc Mélenchon when you were re-elected in the municipal elections. How do you explain this phenomenon?
It’s a fairly classic phenomenon. Jean-Luc Mélenchon has always been stronger here in Toulouse, also in 2012, compared to the National. If we look at the big cities today, they give Jean-Luc Mélenchon very high scores. In Montpellier it is over 40%. What I believe it was a polarization of the electorate to the detriment of the two major governing parties, the LR and the Socialist Party. There are moderate right and PS voters who went to Emmanuel Macron in the first round and more identity-based voters, harder, who went to Marine Le Pen or Eric Zemmour or Jean-Luc Mélenchon.
Worried about the Insoumis vote in Toulouse?
Yes, it is a vote that worries me. The Insoumis prevail. I said in the local elections that behind the candidacy of the Green Party leader, the rebels were actually the main force. What happens proves me right.
Regarding the general elections, do you think that Laurence Arribagé, member of the LR, can beat the wanderer Corinne Vignon, member of the 3rd constituency of Haute-Garonne?
I think anything is possible People change their votes from election to election. I know people who voted for Jean-Luc Mélenchon last Sunday and for me in the local elections and who repeated their trust in me on Monday.